Resolving Windows driver issues talking to the BUB
A recent problem with getting a PC to talk sensibly to a BUB II was resistant to resolution. With a jumper wire between TX & RX on the output side of the BUB, LED activity matched keystrokes input to a terminal emulator attached to the new COMXX port that showed up during enumeration, but nothing useful was echoed. This eliminated the common problem of mistakenly using a 'charger only' USB cable (not enough wires inside) and a lot on the BUB needs to be working for enumeration to succeed. So was this a faulty BUB assembly?
After some debugging (checking jumper settings for the PWR out and Logic Level etc), since the laptop in use was rather mature, it was worth confirming that an old driver version was not invoked in error.
Here is a précis of the steps (kindly provided by Remco K. ) to activate a current driver version:
- Uninstall all versions of the FTDI driver under "Ports (COM & LPT)" (with the option checked 'Delete the driver for this device' enabled).
- When complete, click "Scan for hardware changes" in the "Action" menu.
- If the device re-appears again without having to install a new driver, repeat this step until it doesn't. Or until the 'Delete driver' check mark is not there.
- Uninstall "USB Composite device" or "USB Serial Converter" under "USB Serial Bus-controllers", the same way as described above.
- When ready, install a fresh copy of the FTDI driver from the FTDI site that matches the OS version by following the documentation provided there.
- Reboot your system whether it asks you or not.
Fixed! (The exact details will vary of course with the Windows version involved.)
BUB III JeeNode Zero v4 problems - Added by plutonomore almost 3 years ago
Recently I purchased a JeeNode Zero vers 4 and BUB III, to play with the Zero's FORTH. Unfortunately
I have run into problems and am hoping someone reading this blog who has SUCCESSFULLY used this
combination can steer me in the right direction.
I have installed Folie 2.11. Am using Windows . USB micro B cable is definitely data not just power.
USB Serial Port COM 10. Driver Provider FTDI. Driver Date 9/03/2016. Driver Version 184.108.40.206 .
When USB BUB III with attached JeeNode Zero is plugged into the COM 10 port the JeeNode Zero
PA 8 (LED) illuminates and the RED Tx LED on the BUB III is illuminated slightly. On opening the Folie 2.11
screen I am asked to enter a choice of COM ports. I enter 3(COM 10) and am greeted with [connected to COM 10]
and the JeeNode LED turns OFF. Enter ! help and get the expected command summary. Enter ! reset but
NO Mecrisp message, terminal just hangs. Hit control D to exit Folie and the JeeNode Zero LED comes ON again.
Have carried out the driver uninstall reinstall procedure outlined previously on this forum for the USB BUB II and
JeeNode Zero but using the USB BUB III this time.
If all COM port settings etc. which result in a successfull connection could be supplied, this certainly would be
Any help from someone who has successfully got the USB BUB III and JeeNode Zero working on their
Windows system would be greatly appreciated ... sure this would be of help to others as well!
Hi Matt, good to hear from you again.
I don't have your setup and don't do Forth. I have however played with Folie and Forth. I wonder if your JNZ4 has firmware loaded, have you tried to upload code using the Folie command "!u 6" ?
Are you starting Folie with the
-r flag? (i.e. raw mode i.s.o. the default Telnet mode)
Hi guys, thanks for the replies.
John, I can't talk to the JNZ and consequently when I key in the !u 6 command I get perpetual display of ....................
JCW, yes I'm launching folie using the -r flag
I believe the latest BUB III from Jeelabs was tweaked to provide the reset using the FTDI CTS pin - did your BUB III come from digitalsmarties?
FWIW, here's some info about how uploads work and what is needed: http://jeelabs.org/book/1507a/
Update: ehm, except that for STM32 µCs, the RTS pin works the other way around ...
Hi guys, once again thanks for the interest and replies.
John, yes both the BUB III and JNZ v4 were purchased from Digital Smarties UK ... sure they enjoyed their trip to the antipodes!
JCW, concerning the upload info you provided, all information is good information ... thanks.
If anyone reading this forum commentary has got the JNZ v4 and BUB III combination working using Folie v 2.11, in a
Windows environment (I'm using Win 7), could they please confirm this. This way I can confirm that, as I suspect the
problem lies with me?
Purchased one JNZ v4 with the intention of constructing a second radio pair THC unit ... a moment of insanity. Anyway
attaching a couple of pix. If I get this thing, working will probably submit a write-up.
Nice work Matt. I am puzzled by the trouble you are having with the JNZ4 and the USB III. The BUB should work with old style FTDI Jeenodes, I wonder if you have tested this. Similarly, if the firmware on the JNZ4 is intact it should be possible to talk to the Forth code using a standard terminal emulator and an old style BUB.
I hope my responding is not putting anyone with the relevant hardware from sharing their experiences.
Sending a "." should trigger a response:
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Just found out that I messed up DTR pin handling in Folie v2.11's raw mode (I mostly use SerPlus myself). I've release a new v2.12 build with a fix for this. This affects all platforms, in raw mode, i.e. with the
-r flag. Please try again with the new builds - see https://github.com/jeelabs/folie/releases/tag/v2.12
My apologies for wasting your time if you've been trying out Folie with a BUB III, modified BUB, or similar.
PS. I've only tested on MacOS and Linux.
I am happy to confirm that I have just "SUCCESSFULLY" tested the JNZ vers 4 and BUB III combination using Folie 2.12 , in a
Windows 7 environment ... my apologies for the delay in responding but have had a pretty busy week.
John, thanks for your interest and comments.
JCW, thanks for taking the time and making the effort to trace the DTR polarity bug in Folie 2.11 and supply a functioning fix
in Folie 2.12 ... impressive support!
Attaching a screen capture of Folie 2.12 in action, as confirmation.
I've tried the BUB III/JNZ ver4/windows combination with folie and can connect and receive the message as above but never get to an ok prompt.
I can enter commands such as !h, !ls etc and get a response but just can't interact with the microcontroller.
Don't have any troubles with Linux, all works fine so maybe still a problem with windows version of folie? I've tried with windows 7 and 10.
@ scjames, thanks for confirmation that you also are having problems with the Folie v 2.12/BUB III/Windows
7 & 10 combination. I have flagged this issue on several occasions previously. In my case, I decided to come up with a
solution that I can live with. This involved designing my own JNZ vers 4 PCB, with provision to isolate the BOOT 0
and RESET control lines. I doubt this solution will help you but any information might be helpful. Am attaching a link
to a further Jeelab thread concerning this problem ... you may find it useful.
https://jeelabs.net/boards/7/topics/7599 Just out of interest, have designed and constructed yet another Jeelab Zero clone. This one uses a RF69 CW module
rather than a RF69 HCW module. The Jeelab Zero vers 4 uses a RF69 CW and thus the driver doesn't support the
the RF69 HCW clone in both transmit and receive mode ... only receive mode.
Hope this is of some help.
Hi Matt, thanks for your reply and providing the link to the thread further discussing this.
I've also tried this with a standard USB-serial adapter and experience the same issue with windows so don't think it is specific to the BUB III. I use a combination of Linux and windows so I tend to just use Linux as I don't seem to have any issues there. However it would be nice to have windows fully supported as I use mecrisp and folie a bit at work and it is a bit of a chore setting up a virtual machine to run Linux with all the network and security constraints in place.
I'm going to try making a Serplus and see how that goes.